Comments on: Power 4 Home Scam – Is Power4Home Just Another Scam? http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/ By A Renewable Energy Enthusiast Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:26:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Cristine Montoto http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-21586 Cristine Montoto Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:27:05 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-21586 A pity, but I disagree with this unique upload. I actually do really enjoy your particular web page however and will likely keep coming again for fresh news. A pity, but I disagree with this unique upload. I actually do really enjoy your particular web page however and will likely keep coming again for fresh news.

]]> By: What Is Solar Energy Used For | Solar Energy http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-21414 What Is Solar Energy Used For | Solar Energy Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:29:17 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-21414 [...] author: Will Yap is a home renewable energy enthusiast and blog about residential green energy. Is Power 4 Home a scam? For a comprehensive Power 4 Home review, read this article for more [...] [...] author: Will Yap is a home renewable energy enthusiast and blog about residential green energy. Is Power 4 Home a scam? For a comprehensive Power 4 Home review, read this article for more [...]

]]> By: Jon http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-20557 Jon Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:20:55 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-20557 My Father-In-Law bought the DVD and handed it to me to unravel. I have a long background in building, designing and repairing a lot of mechanical and electrical components and machines. I have a bachelor's degree and numerous certifications. My take on the Power4Home system. Firstly the advertisement needs to be modified to more of a direct statement like, "For $200 you can be on your way to cheaper power for your home". In fact the DVD and accompanied materials need to be edited badly. There are broken links from the PDF documents, no direct posting board for support, no list of materials and where to buy them. There probably "were" at one time, but John Russel most likely doesn't have a production crew and editor on staff, so I will forgive him for this. However, he should be diligent when it comes to correcting errors. Dead links and incomplete or erroneous data are a great way to raise suspicion in your product or cause. Secondly Russel needs to make it clear that ANY off-grid power will help you. Even if your solar panel only powers a porch light that is independent of your home's panel to protect linemen. He should also mention using a simple DC to AC car adapter wired into a solar array is a beautifully simple way of getting AC power to a grid isolated device. This isn't mentioned and should be. Thirdly, Russel needs to state the videos ONLY get you on your way. The process is indeed slow but rewarding. The costs are high for off-grid independence, but his advice makes the process affordable over time. John Russel isn't a scam artist but is skating the ragged edge of perception. I give him props for even trying and I think he is sincere, just flawed in his execution. A good solid bit of editing and some polish on the presentation, this would be worth every cent. My Father-In-Law bought the DVD and handed it to me to unravel. I have a long background in building, designing and repairing a lot of mechanical and electrical components and machines. I have a bachelor’s degree and numerous certifications. My take on the Power4Home system.
Firstly the advertisement needs to be modified to more of a direct statement like, “For $200 you can be on your way to cheaper power for your home”. In fact the DVD and accompanied materials need to be edited badly. There are broken links from the PDF documents, no direct posting board for support, no list of materials and where to buy them. There probably “were” at one time, but John Russel most likely doesn’t have a production crew and editor on staff, so I will forgive him for this. However, he should be diligent when it comes to correcting errors. Dead links and incomplete or erroneous data are a great way to raise suspicion in your product or cause.
Secondly Russel needs to make it clear that ANY off-grid power will help you. Even if your solar panel only powers a porch light that is independent of your home’s panel to protect linemen. He should also mention using a simple DC to AC car adapter wired into a solar array is a beautifully simple way of getting AC power to a grid isolated device. This isn’t mentioned and should be.
Thirdly, Russel needs to state the videos ONLY get you on your way. The process is indeed slow but rewarding. The costs are high for off-grid independence, but his advice makes the process affordable over time.
John Russel isn’t a scam artist but is skating the ragged edge of perception. I give him props for even trying and I think he is sincere, just flawed in his execution. A good solid bit of editing and some polish on the presentation, this would be worth every cent.

]]> By: William http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-19043 William Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:56:14 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-19043 Couldn't end up being written any better! Glancing this post reminds me of my past room partner! He usually kept discussing regarding this! I will certainly forward this website to him. Fairly certain he is going to have a superb check out! Many thanks for posting. Couldn’t end up being written any better! Glancing this post reminds me of my past room partner! He usually kept discussing regarding this! I will certainly forward this website to him. Fairly certain he is going to have a superb check out! Many thanks for posting.

]]> By: Michael http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-18984 Michael Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:00:25 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-18984 Also if you want to make your own windmills it is possible to do it cheaper than $2 per watt but it requires more labor for you so it may still cost $2 per watt to "do it yourself". Also if you want to make your own windmills it is possible to do it cheaper than $2 per watt but it requires more labor for you so it may still cost $2 per watt to “do it yourself”.

]]> By: Michael http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-18983 Michael Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:58:53 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-18983 I have a degree in electronics and I think that this setup needs better explanation for people who don't have degrees or experience in electronics or electrical engineering. The wind mill seems practical but you need space to have enough to power your house. The wind mills at home depot go for ~$2 per watt. I figure if I need 5,000 watts then I would need to spend at least $10,000 on those wind generators. I know that it would take some skills or expertise to connect the wind and solar power to your home power. You could be responsible for a big lawsuit if your setup has enough power to feed back to the grid resulting in injury or death for the electrician working on the lines in your neighborhood. You are also need to realize that where you live might require the installation performed by a licensed electrician. You may need permits to install the wind power if they are taller than the house and/or trees. I have not paid for the system but I have gone to college and I know about all I need to know to do this project. When I think I don't know what is needed for projects like these I just google for instructions on how to do pieces of the project. Usually google returns sites that have instructions on similar projects. Also if you don't have the electrical experience you probably need to invest into an up to date version of the electrical code for your area and a do it yourself book from lowes or home depot. For personal safety you should also get information on what could happen if you get electricuted trying to perform your own setup. 120voltsAC at 15amp can kill. It can hurt you even if it doesn't kill you. This guy may have legitimate information in his system but you can get that information easilly from the library or a college bookstore. As far as the law goes its on you if you don't follow it and someone gets hurt. So add up paying $50 for his material, 10-20% of installation costs go to permits/inspectors, ~$2/watt x ~5,000 watts($10,000), wiring ~$?(depends on how much you need), batteries($65-165/battery[depending on amp hour rating and total amp]), and ac/dc conversion(Automotive 1k inverters can work if connected between the grid and your setup)$varies. totalling easily $10-25k. So the less power you need means the less you spend on your project to get off the grid. Final thoughts, do your homework before complaining about buying something you don't understand. His "product" may be legitmate assuming they hold equivalent information in electrician textbooks. I have a degree in electronics and I think that this setup needs better explanation for people who don’t have degrees or experience in electronics or electrical engineering. The wind mill seems practical but you need space to have enough to power your house. The wind mills at home depot go for ~$2 per watt. I figure if I need 5,000 watts then I would need to spend at least $10,000 on those wind generators. I know that it would take some skills or expertise to connect the wind and solar power to your home power. You could be responsible for a big lawsuit if your setup has enough power to feed back to the grid resulting in injury or death for the electrician working on the lines in your neighborhood. You are also need to realize that where you live might require the installation performed by a licensed electrician. You may need permits to install the wind power if they are taller than the house and/or trees. I have not paid for the system but I have gone to college and I know about all I need to know to do this project. When I think I don’t know what is needed for projects like these I just google for instructions on how to do pieces of the project. Usually google returns sites that have instructions on similar projects. Also if you don’t have the electrical experience you probably need to invest into an up to date version of the electrical code for your area and a do it yourself book from lowes or home depot. For personal safety you should also get information on what could happen if you get electricuted trying to perform your own setup. 120voltsAC at 15amp can kill. It can hurt you even if it doesn’t kill you. This guy may have legitimate information in his system but you can get that information easilly from the library or a college bookstore. As far as the law goes its on you if you don’t follow it and someone gets hurt. So add up paying $50 for his material, 10-20% of installation costs go to permits/inspectors, ~$2/watt x ~5,000 watts($10,000), wiring ~$?(depends on how much you need), batteries($65-165/battery[depending on amp hour rating and total amp]), and ac/dc conversion(Automotive 1k inverters can work if connected between the grid and your setup)$varies. totalling easily $10-25k.
So the less power you need means the less you spend on your project to get off the grid. Final thoughts, do your homework before complaining about buying something you don’t understand. His “product” may be legitmate assuming they hold equivalent information in electrician textbooks.

]]> By: David http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-17084 David Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:24:44 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-17084 Solyndra in your own back yard. There is a huge market for photo-electric that is practical. Power 4 Home is for folks who like to build ships in bottles. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Solyndra in your own back yard. There is a huge market for photo-electric that is practical. Power 4 Home is for folks who like to build ships in bottles. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

]]> By: bob http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-17068 bob Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:45:09 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-17068 I was so bored at his boring, dragged out audio presentation, that I never got to hear it all. This could have been cutdown to 2 to 3 minures easily. I wasted power by falling asleep with the computer and lights on. Perhaps he should make money by using this as a sleeping aid? I was so bored at his boring, dragged out audio presentation, that I never got to hear it all. This could have been cutdown to 2 to 3 minures easily. I wasted power by falling asleep with the computer and lights on. Perhaps he should make money by using this as a sleeping aid?

]]> By: Renee http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-15856 Renee Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:00:20 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-15856 I would not coin this as a scam or even fraud, but I do believe it is misleading. For being such an up front guy in the advert, I think John should be more up front about the actual cost of a system, how much that $200 actually gets you. Not surprising he doesn't because I'm sure sales would drop. Although, I would've been more likely to put up the money if he had been more honest and not make it seem like such an impossible dream, leading me to do more research on the company and to this site, thankfully. The fact of the matter is that it is a good idea and he offers valid information and advice, only not exactly what he initially states. Thanks to all for the input, so I know what I'm getting into if I take on such a project. I would not coin this as a scam or even fraud, but I do believe it is misleading. For being such an up front guy in the advert, I think John should be more up front about the actual cost of a system, how much that $200 actually gets you. Not surprising he doesn’t because I’m sure sales would drop. Although, I would’ve been more likely to put up the money if he had been more honest and not make it seem like such an impossible dream, leading me to do more research on the company and to this site, thankfully. The fact of the matter is that it is a good idea and he offers valid information and advice, only not exactly what he initially states. Thanks to all for the input, so I know what I’m getting into if I take on such a project.

]]> By: Georgia http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/power-4-home/power-4-home-scam-is-power4home-just-another-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-15249 Georgia Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:23:40 +0000 http://diysolarhomes.com/blog/?p=75#comment-15249 Got an email on Power4Home and was afraid it was a scam. Glad I read all this so I can confirm that others have the same fear. Looks as though the $200 investment might save on my water heater. I can install a switch to turn if off when not in use for a lot less than $200. PS - the video that went with the email is sooooo looong that I had to mute it a time or 2 to get through it. Same voice and same old same old. Mark of a scam. Got an email on Power4Home and was afraid it was a scam. Glad I read all this so I can confirm that others have the same fear. Looks as though the $200 investment might save on my water heater. I can install a switch to turn if off when not in use for a lot less than $200.

PS – the video that went with the email is sooooo looong that I had to mute it a time or 2 to get through it. Same voice and same old same old. Mark of a scam.

]]>